This big circle is your mind, the small circle is your body. Mind is bigger than the body. Mind expresses itself with and through the body. And the mind is divided into two parts. So we have the conscious intellectual mind, which is the part that school focuses on. Chat, UBT, a lot of information here. We can crunch information all day long. But then we have the subject of mind, which is defining 95% to 98% of our behavior and our results to the body. It's really about changing our belief system here. Start telling ourselves a different story. Body will respond eventually and results will start changing. This is right about now with Ryan Alford, a Radcast Network production. We are the number one business show on the planet with over 1 million downloads a month. Taking the BS out of business for over six years in over 400 episodes. You ready to start snapping necks and caching checks? Well, it starts right about now. What's the biggest thing holding you back, isn't your strategy, but how you see things? Today's, yes, the project is a problem from a completely different angle. Combining illusions, psychology, and what he calls real transformation. Anders Hansen is an illusionist and CEO of real magic LLC that is helping people break through, limiting beliefs in a very tangible way. Anders, welcome to write about now. Thank you so, Mr. Ryan. I really appreciate the invitation. Thank you for having me on. Yeah, the vibes feel good today. Anders and I have tried to do this a couple times. The vibes were not right, but now we have it all here. Appreciate the flexibility. You're in. Where are we today, Anders? I think I heard a mention. We live in Miami. We have our home there, but after having built a foundation for freedom in my business for the last eight years, we've done really well, created a global team, clients everywhere. Build the whole idea around freedom, but forgot to enjoy it. My partner and I was agreeing on the idea that that was nuts. We took a year out to just go travel. Right now we're in El Salvador. Lovely. Hey, I like it. I'll work in no play. It doesn't make good boy. They do anything good. Exactly. 100%. I love it. Work, life, balance, from illusion to transformation. I know you started as an illusionist and how did that evolved into this transforming other people's lives? After having done that for 20 years, we've done TV shows, cruise ship shows. I realized that the biggest trick is not on stage. It's in our own minds. I started studying personal development, trying to understand how I affect my reality, by the way I'm thinking, because somebody gifted me a book years ago, called the power of your subconscious mind. And I started reading that and studying it, and that helped contribute to my growth in the entertainment industry, going from performing for tips to survive to doing these big, multimillion dollar production shows. And I was standing in the middle of that thinking how the heck this happened. I knew it wasn't that accident. I knew it wasn't God saying, now it's Anders' turn. I knew I had something to do with it. And that new way of thinking guided me down to that path of just trying to understand more about reality and how we affected. So I studied quantum physics, spirituality, personal development. And I became more and more dissatisfied with just magic, getting people to ask themselves the question, how does he do the trick? That will take you to a false sense of ego in the entertainment industry. And that's about it. And I kept asking myself, what did the audience take away from this? And that's when it hit me. Nothing but a postcard and a souvenir cup. But if I started incorporating the tools that I had learned to transform my own life in a pretty significant way, I could hopefully leave the audience with some more tangible tools and strategies to improve their life. And so that's what we do today. We do it through our real magic live events, our virtual work. We bridge entertainment and transformation in a way that's very unique. And as far as I know, never been seen before. I like this a lot because a lot of times transformation is hard. Trying to get someone from point A to point D when they have limiting beliefs. A lot of hardwiring from patterns and behaviors that they've been stuck in or parents or things that they've been hearing and these inputs that they've had for 10, 20, 30, 40 years. It's a difficult process. So if you can bring in illusion and entertainment and interest, I don't know if it's fun, but at least it has a value that keeps you glued to wanting to change in a different way because I hear a lot of the same stuff over and over again. Part of the reason I wanted you on the show is because this is different. And if I hear one more time start with your why. Well, okay, great. That's wonderful and all, but like that is a more persuasion in an interesting way. What's fascinating about what you're doing is it is the combination of these things. How hard of a line of a balance is it to skirt with the illusion and the entertainment with the transformation? In the magic world, it's all about getting people to go, whoa, wow, and a standing ovation. That's the success criteria. In the industry that I consider myself to be part of now, which is personal transformation, the success criteria is people's transformation, of course. How do we bridge the two? I do it not by starting with a trick and what would get the most wows. I start with the premise. What is one of the main ideas I want to convey? And then I look for a tool that can illustrate it. The biggest trick we have are the ones we play on ourselves in our own mind and we do that through our assumptions. Let's break down when the magic happens. The magic happens in our mind when there's a disconnect between our assumptions and what we see. That's when the magic happens. Not in the magicians hands, but in our own mind and to illustrate that and to help us see how we interpret reality. I'm going to use an illusion to actually make my point. On this side, Ryan, you see a one-sided domino brick on this side, there's one dot. Do you agree? I agree. This side, we have four dots. This side, now there's three and now there are six on this side. Like I said, it's a multi-dimensional domino brick. Let's try this one more time. On this side, you saw one dot, then you saw four and then you saw three and then you saw six. Your mind finished a pattern on your behalf. I introduced a framework of a pattern, but your mind appeared to the pattern because you've seen domino bricks many, many times. So you actually constructed a story in your own mind that wasn't real based on the framework that already exists. That's how we interpret reality. That's how we deceive ourselves. When in reality, on this side, you saw either three dots or you saw one dot. Your mind never saw this pattern before. You didn't see that. The point is we don't see with our eyes. We see through them. We see with the assumptions that are stored in our subjective mind. If I believe in limitations, sure, I'll get more of them. That's what I'll connect the dots for in my physical world. If I believe I'm a happy, healthy multi-millionaire, those are the dots I'm starting to connect with in the physical world. That's the point here and that's what I discovered years ago. It's we don't see the world as it is. We see the world as we are. Now, as an illusionist, I had that added benefit of keeping people engaged to the actual content. And I do that by continuously reaching the assumptions on this side. You saw, of course, six dots or you saw four dots. But continuing with the idea of challenging the assumptions, you never saw this pattern. If I've done it right, though, now on this side, you would see actual three. And on this side, you would see actual eight. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's how we do it. There's an actual lesson that's the premise it's to get the idea across that we are not seeing with our eyes. We see with our assumptions. If I do want to change my reality, I need to start with my assumptions. But now you actually remember the point because we tied an illusion to it. So the illusion becomes the anchor for the point. That's how I build all of my live events and everything we do. Like you said, it keeps people engaged. We've heard the same old stuff in 50 million different rampings. But with a teaching tool, which I believe magic can be, it becomes a different thing altogether. Currently, we are number one in the box that we invented because there's no one as far as I know doing what we're doing and the scale we're doing it. I love that. The best illusion is make you think you figured it out and then you didn't. The trick at the end, I love it. You said something and I always say, we're the biggest liars to ourselves. We sometimes think we have liars around us. We lie to ourselves every day. It starts with you have these limiting beliefs. You have these things that you've always thought to be true. We keep ourselves in these boxes, I think, of comfort. Thought to me about what you see working with people and if that is, in fact, true. We do stick in our own little box and we limit ourselves unnecessarily. But like my good friend, our approach to always said, you are your own biggest limitation but you're also your own biggest opportunity. Based on how you see yourself. The problem with us, Ryan, is we don't understand ourselves. We think we are the physical instrument that we call our bodies. So when I look at myself in the mirror, I think that's me. What got me to see was a multi-dimensional being. And once I start working with the different layers of what makes me, then things start to change. And he told me that, you know, we're spiritual being. We live in a physical body and we're gifted with a mind that can think. So we live on all three planes. And if I truly want to change my life, I first have to understand how I'm wired. When I have that understanding, I can learn how to motivate and inspire myself for the rest of my life. I don't need an external source. I don't want to be the one people say you're so inspiring. That's very short-lived. We should be educational, I believe, to a point where people can learn to rewire, motivate, and inspire themselves for the rest of their lives. I do believe this starts with understanding. When I met Bob, he really changed my perception and he introduced me to this little concept here. And he called it the stick person. I called it the genie. Because it really, the understanding of this brings the genie to the surface in ourselves. We all have genius within us. There's nobody here that's more genius than others. We all have it. There's absolute perfection in us. But we just don't know how to draw it to the surface. People are running around living conflicted lives. And that's what I did. I was broke sick and I'm very unhappy. When I started my journey, I'd never earn more than 40,000 a year, working my tail off in the entertainment industry. I had blood tests that said I was sick and an eviction noticed on my door. A $50,000 stupid debt. So I earned 40,000 a year and I owed 50. Not a great situation. But that was my starting point. And Bob introduced this to me and he goes, if you do exactly what I'm telling you, you can have everything you want. And he drew this on an Appkin. He said, this big circle is your mind, the small circle is your body. Mind is bigger than the body. Mind expresses itself with and through the body. And the mind is divided into two parts. So we have the conscious intellectual mind, which is the part that school focuses on. Chat, UBT, a lot of information here. We can crunch information all day long. But then we have the subject of mind, which is defining 95% to 98% of our behavior and our results to the body. It's really about changing our belief system here. We start telling ourselves a different story. Body will respond eventually and results will start changing. And when I told Bob what I wanted, I said I wanted to help millions of people. He looked me swearing the eyes and he said, wouldn't be a good idea to start with yourself. I'm like, I guess so. And he goes, if you, in other words, to your own medicine before you share it with others. And that was his biggest belief. And I adapted that and adopted it. And I did exactly what he told me. And I went from 40,000 to 750,000 in 11 months. My blood test said I was healthy again and everything changed. Not because my circumstances changed, but because I changed. My view of me changed. And that was my assumptions in other words changed. And he goes, you were the illusionist that deceived yourself, at least you see a little more clear now. And he helped me uncover those illusions which was pretty interesting. Well, you are right. We're blinding ourselves every single day. But I do believe it does require a person to wake up and wanting to understand themselves a little bit better. And then also have some goals that is important to them. It could be freedom, more income, more time with the family, better health, whatever it is. But we do need to have a direction. Our brain and our whole system needs leadership. And we need to give our system leadership every day, otherwise we'll just drift. I'll go with Anders Hansen. He is an illusionist and CEO of Real Magic. Where do these limiting beliefs form? And why is it so hard to break them? I introduced this concept before. When we arrived on the planet, we looked like this. We were only a subjective mind and a body. Everything that went on around us went straight into the subjective mind. That's where it originated. That's what builds our identity and our self-image, which is one of the biggest mental programs that we have, is really running on autopilot in the background. Self-image defines our income, weight, health, everything in between. It came from early life and we think that, that's not just our parents. You have your grandparents DNA in you as well. And we have their limiting beliefs and everything that they lived with. Like I come from Europe, I'm from Denmark. I was born and raised there. I moved to the US when I was 25 years old, but I realized very early on that I had a lot of post-war paradigms. In my subjective mind, from the Second World War, because my dad experienced that when he was a young man. He was chased down the street by the Nazis with a machine gun. He buried his best friend who was part of the freedom movement. He saw a very close up what freedom was and wasn't. He instilled that in me very early. It's one of the most important things to strive for, which is why I love America so much, because it's built around the concept of freedom. And I've seen that, so firsthand, what that wasn't, my need for freedom was really big through the storyline of my dad and his family tree. On and on, it goes. We don't have to go back in time to figure out our results and how to change them, Ryan. We just need to understand that looking in the review mirror gives us an awareness of how we're programmed. My biggest objective will always be working from the windshield with a person and getting them to see where they want to go. We identify what needs to change and what needs to be replaced. We're not getting rid of these beliefs. We want to replace them with a new operating model. And that's where profound and lasting transformation occurs. You're talking about your dad. I think it's Americans we take for granted, the losses that our own allies had in our own freedom. And that brings a lot of perspective. This show isn't about that, but I think it's important because I think it's Americans. We appreciate freedom, but we sometimes take for granted the allies that we had. And we obviously help one another appreciate your dad's service in that experience. His best friend was part of the freedom movement and he helped them. They constructed bombs as young men. You know, they were trying to blow up the Nazi ships in the harbor. And my dad and my uncle got caught and they were put to work to build bunkers for the Nazis up in the Danish West Coast. And my dad escaped that and he left. Freedom is only one generation away. It's only thought away. And I never take it for granted. I don't actually think most Americans know what freedom really is. Not just Americans, but people in general, we take our backyard for granted. We take our life for granted. But when you start experiencing through your family tree or lineage or friends experiences what the opposite can be, you start building appreciation. And that's what got me to leave Denmark. I had nothing to do with Denmark. It's a beautiful country. And it's a free country. I mean, my god, it's very, for thinking in many, many ways, beautiful place. But I just become a version of me. I really didn't like it. And I didn't know what to do with it. And what to do about it. I've always wanted to live in the US and to visit and to get that perspective. But I also concluded in the process that regardless of whether or not I like it or whether I return, the perspective will be the value. Either I realized that what I had was the best and I can always go back to it. Or I realized that the new is the best. And then I'll appreciate it a lot. And the last thing was the case for me. There's some irony here, Anders. We're talking about freedom in a very obvious sense of what it is. But what you do is enable people to become free of their worst behaviors, their worst limiting beliefs. Freedom is what you are applying through what you do. Because when we have a veil over our eyes and over things that are holding us back, that is the exact definition of what freedom really is. It's bad to have not season all that in your life or death. That is a whole other level. But then but as we live today in a more modern society where hopefully we're getting closer and closer than not perfect, the worst thing you can have is these veils that you're unnecessarily chained by yourself. 100%. And the worst illusion is the illusion of freedom. Thinking that I have free choice and we do. But you don't if you're limiting yourself. But you don't because we choose within the framework of the old conditioning and there in lies the prison. And like Bob Proctor said, he said, Anders, you can't escape a prison if you don't know you're in one. The first step is to find out that you are, we all are. And yes, we are teaching people to break free from that and live their version of freedom. Whatever that is, it's very different from person to person. But it has a lot to do with autonomy. It has a lot to do with doing what you like to do when you like to do it with the people you enjoy doing it with. That tends to be the common denominator. And we've had clients from Europe, from the US, from all parts of the world. And regardless of culture, society, programming, that tends to be the yearning. And I believe that's because we're spiritual beings. And the spirit is always for free art, expression, and full of expansion. We always want to do more, see more, have more, grow more, earn more, and that's natural, inherent impulse in us. It's very healthy. But in some cultures, we limit that through social contagion, especially in Denmark, especially in Scandinavia. There's a sort of unwritten social law called the Law of Yandu, which states that you're not different than anybody else. Don't think that you're better than anyone else. Don't think that you have more talent than anybody else. So everybody runs around and puts this damper on themselves. And here we are teaching the exact opposite, which I think is the reason why we see a lot of growth in Europe in our business. We've helped over 10,000 people. We've generated north of 13 million, but I know that just the beginning. It's just a matter of helping people understand who they are. And it doesn't matter so much then, where you're born and what happened in the past, what matters is how to break free from the old conditioning. And that takes a respectable amount of work like you started off by saying it's not easy. It's relatively simple, it's just not easy. I do a lot of interviews myself, people go, how have you been successful? I'm the most resourceful person I know. And I really never believe there's anything in my way. And look, it's also my biggest strength in my biggest weakness sometimes. I know if something doesn't happen, it's my fault. And it's not because I don't have money or I don't have this contact or I don't have bricks to build a building or sand to build a castle. How do I choose to put these pieces together? And I think is the number one key. And I think people have this lack. I hate the word, but I love the word because it's so relevant. Everyone thinks they lack something. And what they lack is the freedom in their own mind to realize they are the problem. The only thing they're lacking is awareness. That is the only thing missing. I asked Bob one's, how do you get rid of the problems? He goes, how do you get rid of the dark? It's like you turn on more light and he goes, exactly. And that's why you do the gratitude thing. The gratitude thing, and I'm going to start doing that more. I do it a little bit, but I don't do it enough. You've unlocked that for me personally. I need to write it down more. Like I'll say it and think it and do all those things, but then you did write it down because actually, when you do that and you said it more eloquently, you start to unlock what created those things that you're grateful, your own actions, because it makes you think about it when you write down becomes real. And you're up for this. I think from from my health, why do I have health because I made these changes? And why do I have money? Well, you think through it more and then you start to build ideas and things more than just thankfulness and unlocks resourcefulness. 100%. I have goosebumps when you say that. It's so true. And there's an exactly right about writing it down because what happens is writing causes conscious thinking. When I write in hand, not on my phone, but in hand, it causes my conscious mind to engage. And I start to see mental images because we think in pictures as human beings, we don't think in words. That's why this diagram is so important. We need an image. The writing of the gratitude, the things we're grateful for, causes conscious activity, mental images. That will stir the emotions. That will change how the body feels. The word feeling is just the work we've invented to describe our conscious awareness of the vibration that our body is in. And so I can change that vibration as well. Like my client who had cancer, she changed her perception so much that a successful business came out of a cancer diagnosis. When most people that is absurd, they would go into victim mentality and poor me and they would stay there and they would probably end up their days living in that frequency. Whereas she just changed it immediately. It didn't become an emotion for her. She caught it early and she said, that's great. I'm so grateful. And so she pattern interrupted herself before it became an emotion and that constant emotional loop that doesn't serve us. So you're right. Writing it out in hand, puts us up to our source of supply. It unlocks opportunities in life and business. It connects us to the right people because ultimately people are either attracted to our energy or they are repelled by it. And if I have a crappy attitude, mental and emotional and physical state, that's really what attitude is. It's the composite of false feelings and actions. If I'm in a bad vibration, people feel it, you feel it mile away. But if I get up every day and yes, shit can happen, I can have problems, but I get up and I prime myself, then at least I will attract opportunities in that will enable me to solve the problems. And like you said, so well, you become more resourceful in the process. So there's so many arguments as to, we can go down the whole rabbit hole of neuro, how it actually impacts the brain and how it impacts the body. There's studies that show that. It's science, it's very tangible and very real. And that's why this is important. That's the key. Business owners will listen to this and say, well, I'm grateful, I'm grateful right now. I know it should be grateful, but what's the next thing? What should I do? When you're in the vibration of already being in the goal of already having achieved what you want to achieve from that frequency, your insights are going to come to you. You're in a receptive state. It changes everything. And that doesn't mean we shouldn't seek advice and we shouldn't seek strategy, of course, as part of the game, but your intuition will be much sharper. We do a rapid fire, Anders. But one statement and you give me your first thought. What's the biggest illusion people believe that they aren't enough? Hands down the biggest one. They're God's highest form of creation. They should believe that instead. One believed the whole people back and saved them. Yeah, I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy. I'm not enough. Tends to be the overriding one. One habit that creates breakthroughs. Gratitude, hands down. Logic or intuition? Always intuition, 100%. Einstein said intuition is the sacred gift. Logic is the faithful servant. We've created a society that honors the servant and has completely forgotten the gift. Intuition, when I pray, I'm talking to God at the universe. Depends on your own religious and spiritual persuasion. But when I use my intuitive factor, the universe is talking to me. That's a much more powerful proposition. And one person living that way is always the majority. Yeah, I could teach young people one thing. Stop trying to be so logical, start being more intuitive. And you can do it, but you almost have to get out of your own way. You know why? I believe this. We have so many answers now, Anders. Convenience, everything's convenient. We have chat, do we have all these things that provide the answers, that provide the logic, that provide the knowledge, but the difference is the intuition, the creativity, the thinking about thinking. One of my favorite people, and you talked a lot about this. You didn't say it directly that way, but that's a lot of what we've been talking about. Because when you write down gratitude to these things, he always says, we need to do more thinking about thinking. It sounds stupid, but it's actually true because we need more intuition and less ABC, A plus B, we'll see. Yeah, it does. I believe it's the currency of the future. We've been gifted with six mental tools that makes us human. When we arrive on the planet, the systems that animals have, fight or flight instinct was replaced with mental tools. We have imagination, intuition, will, reason, memory and perception. There's a beautiful mental tools. We can literally use them to build the life we want. And intuition is probably one of the most important next to imagination and focus. Anders, working someone, learn more about what you're doing. See one of your transformation, illusion shows combined and learn everything else about you. How can they find you? I'm a big believer in just providing good value. We put together a bundle that provide great value. Completely free people will get the illusion break assessment to understand what is my predominant mental illusion, my mental limiting belief I need to work with and how do I get about changing it? Second step is how do I set the target, the goal, how do I learn to prime myself to the frequency every day that matches and how do I then understand how the mental is tied to the physical? We bundle that all up free that people can download. All they have to do is find me on Instagram or Facebook at real Anders Hansen and it's R-E-A-L-A-N-D-E-R-S-H-A-N-S-E-N. And then just comment the word right about now. We took the name of your podcast. If the people put that in one word right about now and put it in the comments on one of our posts, then we'll send that kit to them and they can get started right away. Love it, man. We'll have that link directly so people can click it and links to all the social media. Anders, really appreciate you for coming on and sharing your perspective and a lot of entertainment at the same time, doing a couple tricks. I'm sitting there going, how did you do that? Changing my perception in the middle of the show. Love it. Thank you for having me on, Ryan. And if there's one thing I'd love to leave your audience with, it's the idea that it's not who we are, that holds us back because there's infinite potential within us like we discussed. What's holding most people back are those mental illusions about who we think we're not. Very true. Hey, you know, always learn more. We can go from point A to point D. 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